Linda Duane
Gallente Bluestar Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.11.22 11:58:00 -
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Edited by: Linda Duane on 22/11/2006 12:11:09 Edited by: Linda Duane on 22/11/2006 12:00:20
Originally by: Taketa De
Originally by: Tunajuice Say your base mine with a cov is X.. then you have + 20% from this, +15% from that.. for a total of a +100% yield.
You hulk has a little more pluses.. so you get a +120% yield.
So the hulk is 320/300 = 6.67% better.
Not exact numbers.. but I don't think a hulk gets a full 20% better yield. That is a LOT of time to make up for mining empire garbage.
If you want to try to make a post and say others are wrong, use actual math or actual numbers. You're not using either. In a post above there is a link to the mining guid that show's it's 20%.
Now to your math... what do you think +120% even means? Without further context it would mean you'd end up at 220%, so I have absolutely no idea of how you arrive at your 320/300, but you should probably think about what you have posted again.
To answer the question with logic: Hm.. what can a hulk fit/use on skills, a covetor can't? - Exhumer Skill => Factor 1.15 to yield - one more Mining upgrade than cov => Factor 1.05
So you get a 1.2075 (=20.75%) better yield than a cov, if the rest of the fittings/skills/imps/links aso.. is equal for a fair comparison (and it's even true if you're only using miner 1's on them ;) ).
Aside from the naked numbers: When the hulk pays itself of, depends on what you (by yourself) compare with each other.. security, ore/min, afk'ing, aso...
If I (by myself) compare in _high_ sec a expected ratio of vessel-value hulk/cov of 1000/100 = 10 and do then compare that the mined ore-value hulk/cov gives 120/100 = 1.2, a hulk doesn't compete in empire with a cov as for what, _how much_ and where I mine, IMHO.
For the naked numbers this changes when those 20% comes in the range of the value of a hulk.. so for an example, when you compare both ships side by side mining the vessel-value of a hulk, a cov needs 6 such minings bevore it mined the same amount as 5 times mining with a hulk brought.
In high sec with omber _FOR ME_ we're speaking about 311 hours (6x 350m / 2.8m x 25mins / 60mins/hour) of pure, break-free omber mining (hulk price 350m, omber price 2.8m per jetcan, 25mins per jetcan)... hehe. So, for me, it really doesn't pay off.
Greetz Linda
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